tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13792024.post3042759152243037117..comments2024-03-15T07:24:22.608+00:00Comments on Life on Wings - A Tribute to Dr Ern Baxter: True Apostles are True Fathers!Dan Bowenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15661120561123767936noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13792024.post-34029920577359940282011-07-23T16:08:11.605+01:002011-07-23T16:08:11.605+01:00Hey Mark, I think you'll really enjoy Dave'...Hey Mark, I think you'll really enjoy Dave's book - as you say, I'm sure newfrontiers wouldn't claim to have got the apostolic exactly right but they are modelling really well.<br /><br />I think this new phase will be interesting to see whether they advance their understanding of the apostolic further, or whether we will see lots of "mini-newfrontiers" develop!Dan Bowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15661120561123767936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13792024.post-86172840558198555532011-07-23T16:08:00.564+01:002011-07-23T16:08:00.564+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Dan Bowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15661120561123767936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13792024.post-18509709824174574172011-07-22T22:55:54.346+01:002011-07-22T22:55:54.346+01:00I'm very much looking forward to reading Dave&...I'm very much looking forward to reading Dave's book. The role of the apostolic has worked well in newfrontiers so far, and it will be interesting to see how things develop as we move into a new phase of "inter-related" spheres. It's good to see an attempt to write up a biblically based explanation for how apostles can operate today.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17900587357903273800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13792024.post-50014925105833108652011-07-22T10:07:33.248+01:002011-07-22T10:07:33.248+01:00"Does abuse command no use - or rather consid...<b>"Does abuse command no use - or rather consideration of right and proper use?"</b><br /><br />Excellent point and important to remember in every area. Just because we apply a truth or principle wrongly doesn't mean we reject the whole thing. We just need to apply correctly.Peter Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14498529242569940604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13792024.post-22150679003417788872011-07-22T09:11:44.967+01:002011-07-22T09:11:44.967+01:00Thoughts of should've sat down first and consi...Thoughts of should've sat down first and considered have we got the materials for the Tower, or have we got enough resources to make a spoil of the opposing army come to mind.<br /><br />When following the Cloud, as they were, which is how they began so confidently, it's important to keep following the Cloud. The Israelites first experience of free life as a nation state happened ONLY after hundreds of years of slavery. Can you think of another nation whose first experiences were slavery? So they hadn't a clue about how freedom would work. When they entered the wilderness they just hadnt a clue! Period. But as the prophetic scriptures say, God carried them like a child. And He did that by getting them to follow a pillar of fire and a cloud.<br /><br />You see although we do sit down and count the cost....this IS NOT the same as having to Know everything beforehand. because the Israelites didnt. It's a matter of deciding pretty early on before God to be WILLING, and TEACHABLE. To commit yourselves to flexible wineskins while the scale of the Operation continually changes.<br /><br />It didn't particularly matter that the first generation of apostles didn't have a clue what an apostle was, they were following the Cloud that would make them into one. This is the beauty of melchizedek order ministry. You don't have to know everything, just be a few steps ahead of the people you are leading.<br /><br />To paraphrase the words of Acts 2<br />Apostles and prophets DO EXIST but not as YE SUPPOSE.Chris Welch - 07000INTUNEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17932291173536070080noreply@blogger.com