"Only when the networks come together - are we going to see a global outpouring" - Todd Bentley.
"Yes I know it's (the anointing) is coming over your TV but it is THICK here people, it is THICK! ... It is better felt than telt!" - John and Carol Arnott.
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Dan,I loved this clip and I commented on it when it came on TV about 3 weeks ago....Meanwhile about your blog.
When I came across your blog a year ago, I wondered if I should get into blogging...may be I will. But would I ever have the time? On the other hand an amazing thing is happening as we move from the 1st and 2nd levels into the 3rd level. In the next phase of things, we begin moving more and more as One Person in many forms. It is the vision of the Body of Christ. I cannot think of a better use of a blog than all of us crowding in on your blog sharing insights, visions, testimonies, histories, biographies of previous saints, stories of God’s power and supernatural acts…tricks of Living in God I don’t mean devious tricks, I mean knacks, as in tricks of the trade….how to face life problems….revival sharing….maybe covenanting together to break certain things open, or see breakthroughs in people’s/churches’ healing, or finance, or oppressions……In short Philippians 4:8 and Philippians 2:1-4 !!!!! I don’t think you could get a better blog than that!!
You, however might feel differently if people all over the world start taking your blog over in the comments section.
I really found Rob’s last message interesting. I have a lot to say about it. But I may write to Rob direct about it. I love his heart for God. …Here, instead is a message of Juan Carlos Ortiz in Chorleywood in 1977. Remember, this is the Church( we lived nearby) that was to help seed the UK with Soul Survivor and together with HTB Brompton John Wimber, and later Alpha Courses. My friend took notes cos I could not be there. I think you will see the link between Rob’s message and this one.
Don Juan Carlos Ortiz - Chorleywood - October 1977
He began by saying that he was not going to share what is
happening in Argentina, because of the temptation to copy or
be discouraged because it isn't happening in our own place.
He wants to stir us up - disturb us so that we are obliged to
seek God.
Jesus said - "l am the Way the Truth and the Life"
That means we must trust Him whilst walking in His life.
It is not by believing, but by walking the way.(That is …to believe on the Lord Jesus)
Have you a Christian religion or Christ?
You take your doctrine from a book - so do all other religions
have a holy book.
Jesus came to bring life not a book.
Who said we should be bible centred ( after all it is only our
own interpretation)
This is the reason we are divided.
I am sorry to tell you that Jesus is alive today: (broad grin on face)
He is head of the church - King.
Old Covenant - pact - based in the law
New Covenant - "...I will make a new covenant with the house of
Israel. .... I will put my law within them, and I will write
it upon their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be
my people. 1"1
LIFE not rules. Son within us.
Do not confuse right thinking with Jesus.
To have the right doctrine does not mean you have Jesus.
To have Jesus does not mean you have the right doctrine.
The church is like a long funeral;
We keep on talking about the people in the N.T., we are dead.
We preachers are teachers of holy history, always saying the
same things.
Jesus seems to be in a casket in the midst. He wants to be
alive in our midst. I am, not I was !
Paul never quoted the gospels because he had more up to date
news. He was in constant communication with the Lord.
"Lord, what shall I say to the Corinthians?" - and the Lord answered
Jesus is alive today - this is not a concept it's the TRUTH.
I am thirsty for today's Jesus.
Religion is like a Christian club. Clubs are founded round a
set of principles, and the principles have become more important
than Jesus. If people dare to disagree with some of our
principles we kick them out. (bit like Ern- he gives a mighty kick)
Dan, thanks for putting this up!!!
07000intune, I have greatly appreciated your comments on here and have gained much from what you have shared, and truly think many would benefit greatly from a blog by you....:) Your passion is so evident and contagious......certainly more people can be blessed by your testimonies and insights!!!
(We can always find the time for what we are most passionate about...:) Much grace to you!!!
"I cannot think of a better use of a blog than all of us crowding in on your blog sharing insights, visions, testimonies, histories, biographies of previous saints, stories of God’s power and supernatural acts…tricks of Living in God I don’t mean devious tricks, I mean knacks, as in tricks of the trade….how to face life problems….revival sharing….maybe covenanting together to break certain things open, or see breakthroughs in people’s/churches’ healing, or finance, or oppressions……In short Philippians 4:8 and Philippians 2:1-4 !!!!! I don’t think you could get a better blog than that!!"
Wow I couldn't agree more with Lydia - Chris, this is exactly the kind of vision that I have been dreaming about! Of course you are MORE than welcome to take over the comments section and go wild! If it is talking about the Kingdom of God - then I am interested!
Another possibility for you to consider and pray about perhaps is that I have always been striving to see the blog become something of a "team effort" exploring the Kingdom and life in the Spirit together. I've got no interest whatsoever in it being "my blog" and defending it as such. So as you will see I have done with the Rob Rufus blog - I do love getting people to come join as fellow contributers!
Maybe you might think about joining this blog and using it as a platform to share some of your vision, your testimonies, your ideas? Let me know!
I was very interested to read Juan Carlos Ortiz ... he had a profound impact on Ern Baxter and the brothers. Rob's latest sermon also hugely impacted me! I dropped all other transcribing projects and am about twenty minutes into typing that out! It is hugely important and I shared with Pete Day, I do feel it is a landmark.
If we can get on board with this, then much condemnation may be driven off our lives!! Or even if we disagree with Rob's conclusions, it is making us THINK and consider what is going on!
While I am mulling on all these things Dan...and it was amazing to get a direct reference from Lydia Joy,that's a first...this is what I am reminded of...because God movements always seem to be Word and Spirit...You always seem to have both strands...and ofcourse Smith Wigglesworth proclaimed the next move would really be a twinning of the two....so there always has to be some vehicle for the written bit. Now in Luther's time it was the Gutenburg press. The last big move used the vehicles of "New Wine" magazine, and over here Fountain Trust mag then"Restoration magazine" and the lesser known "Fulness"magazine. What few people realise as they line the bookstores for children's books is that Nick Butterworth and Mick Inkpen were the designers of this last mag...so again people don't appreciate how much God stuff is really behind some of our daily lives here in the UK. Back to train of thought no.1 .I believe your blog is somehow a component part of this current move. One of the written bits of this move.I believe Peter Stott (Havant)already by the Spirit told Todd Bentley to keep an eye on your blog way back late last year or early this year when they were both over in Suffolk or somewhere.That was before any of us knew anything about Florida.
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Let's get this clear and in writing.My name is Chris.Way back I had to choose an emailname for google so I chose a piano business line number from the late 90s.It is an existing google reference long before blogging was really up and running.
It's awesome to officially meet you Chris..your thoughts are most welcome!!! And that was so amazing what you shared about Dan's blog.....!!!
Chris, I get so excited when someone else more eloquently spells out something of the vision that drives me. I think the publishing of our vision is a crucial step up from perhaps previous moves of God that were limited in their "writing down what they saw".
As you mentioned so rightly, New Wine Magazine and the Fountain Trust did much but it was (and still is) the availability of those magazines that is so utterly key to that vision being carried on.
Just so here ... charismatics are mocked at by such as the Anonymous individual for being "air-heads" and "clowns" who accept anything and everything that comes our way. But surely our heart is much deeper than seeking the next spiritual high that comes along.
We want to see history in the making! We want to see God changing the affairs of the world, and be there with our pens poised, or our computers or our mobile phone videos ready to capture what God is doing and how He is breaking into the time/space world!!
Let them come!
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